1. Reflect on Ponyboy's words on p.141: "..half of the hoods I know are pretty decent guys underneath all the grease, and from what I've heard, a lot of Socs are just cold-blooded mean - but people usually go by looks." Do you agree? Why or why not? Be specific.
2. What do you think Johnny meant when he said, "Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold...?"
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1. I agree with what Pony's saying. You judge people from their outward appearance. Like for example, you see a guy on the street with raggedy clothes and a dirty face and you automatically think "slobby hobo." But actually he might be a prince or some big shot CEO in disguise.
2. I think Johnny meant that Ponyboy is young and so pure, and he should stay that way.
1. I agree with Pony. Most of the time I am also guilty of judging people based on their looks; I would not think that a guy with a bunch of grease in his hair and a very tough-guy look would be decent. Then again, I don't even know the person, and he could be a pretty nice person on the inside. Pony might be a little biased though, because he is a greaser and he doesn't know the good sides of Socs too.
2. I think that Johnny meant that Pony should continue being the person that he is, reading books and watching sunsets and doing things not really typical of a greaser. Since they both really understood the Robert Frost poem, Johnny is using the "stay gold" phrase as a metaphor of hoping that Pony will stay the same.
1. I agree, because some greasers are decent on the inside but not on looks, and I totally agree that some of the Socs. are very cold-blooded even though they look decent on the outside. And yes, I agree that most people see each other based on the outside looks.
2. I think Johnny meant to tell Pony to not waste his life away, and Pony shouldn't become bad and stay a good person.
1. I agree with what Pony's saying and that everything is basically judged on your outward appearance. For example, if you see an unshaven guy on the street with raggedy clothes and a dirty face, you automatically think "hobo." But if you see a guy that's clean shaven, smells good and is wearing an expensive looking suit, you automatically think "rich and respected guy."
2. I think Johnny meant that Ponyboy is young and pure and should stay that way. I think "gold" represents pureness becausae gold is a pure substance.
1. I don't agree with Pony's saying because most people I know that dress "cool" are pretty nice poeple. Take Casey for an example, she is a really nice person, and she would compfort her friends if there were sad. Or me, though I don't dress like I'm "cool" I would still help people out with their problems or just if they are sad.
2. I think that Johnny said that because he does not want Ponyboy to change later in his life. Johhny just want Pony the same way forever. Johnny wants Pony to keep his own persnal personalities that make Pony himself unique.
1.I agree with Pony's statement that people ususally go by looks. If I was out on the street and two guys, one a greasy hood, the other a respectable looking guy, came up and asked me a question, I would probably choose to trust the respectable guy. If a person dresses decently and looks like the don't live off the street, they are more likely to be trusted.
2. Johnny and Pony interpret the poem "Nothing Gold can Stay" as talking about life. "Gold" reffered to all the good things in life. By telling Pony to "stay gold", Johnny was saying that Pony was a good person, and that he should stay that way.
Well, I don't think that all of the Socs are cold-blooded mean. Pony just thinks that Socs are mean because his kind - greasers - get jumped by the Socs all the time, so it's only natural for him to think that all Socs are mean. I agree that people usually go by looks. If you see a person with clean hair and decent clothing, you would assume that they're "good kids". But if you saw someone with long greasy hair and worn out clothing with patches and holes, you would tend to stay away from them, right?
I think that Johnny's sentence to Ponyboy referred to the poem that Pony recited. You know, Nature's first hue is gold? Well, Johnny meant for Pony to stay young, you know, stay gold. Growing and toughening up would be becoming green. Johnny wants Pony to keep on reading books, watching sunsets, and being himself.
1."Don't judge a book by it's cover."
I think that people think that the Socs are really nice because they look nice, but only the greasers know what horrible things they can do. The greasers, who look tough and dirty, are actually really nice people underneath their skin.
As always I think what you are on the inside matters the most.
2. I think Johnny meant to say to Pony to stay young and not grow up too quickly like Darry did, but not be like Soda, who never grew up.
1) I dont agree with Ponyboy on that statement. He said that a lot of the socs are just cold-blooded mean. But it isn't socs fault. They were raised around so much wealth and having everything they wanted. So the socs thought that since the greasers weren't wealthy, they shouldn't be treated respectfully.
2) When Johnny said "Stay Gold", I think he meant that he wanted Pony to always stay happy even though he would always miss Johnny so much.
1. The greasers look bad on top but can be decent underneath, and the Socs look good on top but are mean underneath. I agree because that is also how I judge people. I see someone that looks like a stuck-up, haughty kid, but then when I get to know that person he or she might turn out to be very friendly and generous. I am sure that this is how most people in our society look at people for the first time.
2. I think Johnny meant that Ponyboy needed to stay a good kid like he always was. Johnny did not want Ponyboy to become a bad greaser, and he did not want his death to affect Ponyboy's future. He said "Stay gold" because he was referring to the poem "Nothing gold can last" that Pony recited at the church. Pony was "gold", because he was a good greaser, and Johnny wanted Pony to stay good/"gold".
1. I agree with what Pony says. I think he's saying that most people see greasers as the scary and hood type and socs as the good guys. Underneath its really the opposite but society bases on the looks. From the looks, the greasers do look scarier. But from inside they're more decent. Many people do judge from looks even though they know it may not be right. Most sterotype and are still racist but the ones that come off as the nicer ones may not be who you think they are. Thats how people THINK they understand the socs.
2. When Johnny says " Stay gold, stay gold" I think he was talking about the poem by Robert Frost. Pony thought he didn't understand when they got to that subject looking at the sunrise. But apparently he did. When they talked about the sunrise, Pony realizes that many things in life are like this. Nothing that great can last like you want it too. But Johnny is saying Pony is gold and unlike other things lasting, he wants Pony to.
1. Well I don't agree with what Pony says because looks don't always matter to like someone or be friends with them. What matters the most is how the person acts and how the person looks and feels on the inside such as emotions and actions they show.
2. Before in the church when both of them watch the sun rise Pony says, "Nothing gold can stay." Pony reacts back by saying "Nothing beautiful can stay." Johnny says stay gold to Pony before he dies meaning, he should live longer than he did and live a happy life.
1. I do agree with what Ponyboy says. First of all, he probably sees the greasers in a better light than a soc would, and he believes that most of them are good guys inside. Pony thinks that greasers are good people with hard lives. While many greasers believe that all socs are spoiled and mean, Pony has come to realize that even though they can come off as mean by their appearence, like the greasers, they are really decent people. Ever since Randy had that chat with him Pony has started to understand both sides, the greasers and the socs.
2. I think that Johnny meant for Pony to stay the way he is. Ponyboy is a genuine person to Johnny, and it would be a shame if Pony turned into something he was not. Pony was a true friend who thought differently, while everyone else just did what they thought they had to do.
1. I agree with what Pony said on page 141. This still happens today at school but it isn't about what class we are in. It is about what we wear and what we look like. A lot of students at school care about what other students wear. Sometimes, they even gossip about the people who don't wear name brands. Most students wear them because they are afraid of being humiliated by other students. Also, there is a lot of stereotyping going on at school. For example, a lot of the students say that all Asians, especially Korean and Chinese students are always in advanced classes like Geometry. Students also say that Asians never get A-'s but only A+'s and A's.
2. I think that when Johnny said to Ponyboy, "Stay gold, Ponyboy....Stay gold," he meant that Pony should not get in trouble and do well in school. He is also saying good luck when I won't be here for you. Before, at the church, Ponyboy recited a poem that also included something that had to do with staying gold. I think that Johnny thought of this and told Ponyboy to try and stay gold as much as possible. I think he said this to encourage Ponyboy even though Johnny will go to heaven and won't be there for Pony. I am guessing that he said it to comfort Pony while he is watching Johnny die at the hospital.
1. I agree with that becasue there are a lot of steriotypes out there. For that they think just since the Socs dress nice and are in a higher class they think they are nice. But really if it the greasers you want to be friends with they are the ones that work for what they want and are real people.
2. They were at the church watching the sunsets when they were on their own, and Johny had stated "nothing gold can stay" then Pony said "nothing beautiful can stay" then as he was dying he said stay gold.
1. I agree, because people usually just judge a book by its cover. They just take one look at a person and decide that they're something they're really not. In this situation, I think it's unfair for the greasers because they're sort of the good people but others think they're not. Instead the Socs are seen as nice and good.
2. I think that Johnny meant that he wanted Pony to stay the way he was right now, and keep watching sunsets and reading. I also think that Johnny said this because he actually understands Pony.
1. I agree with what Pony said on page 141. This still happens today at school but it isn't about what class we are in. It is about what we wear and what we look like. A lot of students at school care about what other students wear. Sometimes, they even gossip about the people who don't wear name brands. Most students wear them because they are afraid of being humiliated by other students. Also, there is a lot of stereotyping going on at school. For example, a lot of the students say that all Asians, especially Korean and Chinese students are always in advanced classes like Geometry. Students also say that Asians never get A-'s but only A+'s and A's.
2. I think that when Johnny said to Ponyboy, "Stay gold, Ponyboy....Stay gold," he meant that Pony should not get in trouble and do well in school. He is also saying good luck when I won't be here for you. Before, at the church, Ponyboy recited a poem that also included something that had to do with staying gold. I think that Johnny thought of this and told Ponyboy to try and stay gold as much as possible. I think he said this to encourage Ponyboy even though Johnny will go to heaven and won't be there for Pony. I am guessing that he said it to comfort Pony while he is watching Johnny die at the hospital.
1. I don't agree with what Ponyboy said because it's not right to judge someone by their looks, no matter where they're from, or based off of their class. It's a two-sided situation: the Socs see the Greasers as "white trash with long hair" and don't really know what the person is like on the inside. They make guesses. The Greasers, in addition, look at the Socs and automatically say that they wear madras, are clean, have no problems, and that they are mean. The Greasers also make assumptions by saying "...a lot of Socs are just cold-blooded mean..." because they haven't really gotten to know how the person is inside.
2) When Johnny said "Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold..." it had a lot of meaning behind it. From earlier in the book, Ponyboy recites a poem called "Nothing Gold Can Stay", which basically means that all good things don't last forever, and that innocence and beauty don't last. The metaphor in the poem is "gold" and when Johnny says this to Ponyboy right before he dies, he means to tell Ponyboy to stay perfect, innocent, and as a good kid. He doesn't want Ponyboy to end up like him.
1. I don't agree, because you can't just judge a person by their looks or by hearing rumors. You have to really know them to judge them. Like Bob, Cherry knew him and he's also a pretty decent guy when he's not drunk.
2. I think what he means by that is like when they were watching the sunset. Ponyboy recited the poem about nothing gold can stay, and Johnny thinks Pony is gold. I think.
1. Yes, I agree with what Pony said on page 141. What Pony said reminds me of racism, and how many people, especially in school, see people based on what they look like and what they wear. Many kids think that if someone comes from a different background than them, then they feel like he or she shouldn't be their friend. Also, many people think that certain people are more "dirty" and "stupid" than them, making that person feel discluded. Additionally, many assumptions are made by what kids at school wear. If they don't wear brands like Abercrombie or Hollister, then they are not included they "in" group. But, I have several friends that are different from me on the outside, but still are all the same inside. Pony can only assume that most Socs are bad, but Pony has never actually talked to Socs, other than Cherry and Randy. Therefore, given the fact that a Soc almost killed him, Pony assumes that most of the Socs in the world are bad people.
2. I think that Johnny said "Stay gold, Ponyboy" he was referring the poem Pony said to Johnny when they were watching the sunset at Windrixville. Pony was saying that "nothing gold can stay" and basically it means that nothing good can stay that good for long. I think that when Johnny said that he meant that Pony should continue living the way he's living right now, when everything is perfect: how Darry loves him and how there is no argument in Pony's group, and how there are no deaths and depression.
1. I think that Pony means that you can't generalize people's personalities just by their looks. Although the Greasers look tough and sneaky, some are "pretty decent guys," like Johnny, for instance. The Socs look like clean and decent gentlemen, but many (if not most) got into fights and had beer blasts. The Socs who jumped Greasers were probably "just cold-blooded mean," but society still considered all Socs to be angels. I agree with Pony's statement; you can't judge someone by their looks.
2. I think that Johnny was remembering his conversation with Pony while they were gazing at the golden sunrise. In the poem that Pony recited, nothing stays gold. Perhaps "staying gold" represents happiness or being good. So, I guess Johnny wanted to tell Pony to live well and remember their good times together.
1. I agree with Pony's statement because a lot of people care about their looks. Greasers may not be that nice on the outside, but in the inside, they can be nice. They just don't want to show it. The socs want to be cool and better than the greasers, to they try to act cooler than them. The socs also aren't that mean. They just don't want to show it to the greasers because they want to be better then them. I also think that the socs want to make the greasers look like junk, so they care about their looks and how nice they dress.
2. I think Johnny was reffering to when Pony said, "nothing gold can stay". Meaning that Pony should stay who he is and never become meaner than he is. Also I think Johnny meant that even if he wasn't going to always be there with Pony in real life, Pony should always remember that he doesn't have to change.
1.I do agree with what pony said because it is true that mostly all the greaser looks at the socs as cold-blooded mean peoples. Even in the beginning for example pony also thought that untill he got to know cherry,and alsoafter bob's death that he founded out that bob was also a good guy. looking at a person in a different point of view just changes everything you thought of that person.like bb being a bad guy he was just never told that there is a limit to the things that he does.
2. What jhonny is telling pony boy probably means stay goodmake good choices because you can change the future. also make choicesso that yor goldness won't disappear like jhonny's.
1.) People do discriminate by looks. The ugly truth. People will judge you based upon your looks. Whether it's your clothes, face, or hair, people will take whatever they can see and judge you. Are you wearing expensice clothes and jewelry? Are you fat or skinny? Your ethnic group? People can take away a lot of things from the way you look, the way you dress. If you dress all black, they call you emo (which I believe is soooo inaccurate). People try to know you on the first impression.
2.) When Johnny told Ponyboy to stay gold, I think he meant that he wanted Ponyboy to stay the way he wanted. He doesn't want Pony to become cold and hardened like Dally. You can't find a lot of boys like Pony these days. Pony's polite and nice, and artistic and sensitive. He's young, and hasn't seen so many bad things yet, and Johnny wants it to stay that way so Pony can lead a happy, unjaded life. You could say that Pony is still innocent. And Johnny doesn't want his nature to change.
1. Yes, I agree with what Ponyboy said--that people usually go by how a person looks to determine whether they're nice, or mean, rich or poor, educated or uneducated. Just because someone dresses a certain way, or lives in a certain area doesn't determine what kind of person they are. I think these type of assumptions have to do with race a lot, like people tend to be steriotypical of one race, and not the other, because that's what society tells us to do.
2. I think what Johny meant when he told Ponyboy to stay gold was that Ponyboy should last forever just like the way he is now, and never change, like what the poem said about how things can't stay gold. Johny wants Ponyboy to stay gold though.
1. I think i agree with Ponyboy, because a lot of people like Darry, Johnny, and Soda, and even Steve are pretty decent guys even thought they are greasers. There are greasers that arent too nice, like Dally, or Tim Shephard, but they still have feelings and stick up for each other.
A lot of the Socs, even though they are supposedly "assets" to society, but are actually mean, like the Socs that just jump random greasers that they see. As always, there are some exceptions, like Randy and Cherry and maybe even Bob, as Randy describes him as wanting someone to set some limits or restrictions for him, but his parents always thought that whatever Bob did wrong was their fault.
2. He was referring back to Nothing Gold can stay, but I think that he meant stay innocent, and dont become hard, like Dally. He also is probably saying stay alive.
My answer is:
Answer Number One:
Yes, because most greasers they care about themselve &most likely their buddies &other greasers, its who they are. And when they said that Socs are just cold-blooded mean, i think thats sorta true; but on the other hand it isnt, i think its sorta true because most of the socs, cares about themselve. Besides, some other socs like cherry, she cares about other people including the greasers.
Answer Number Two:
When Johnny said, "Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold." What he meant was that whenever something is good and enjoyable it can't last there forever &he's telling Ponyboy that there's a lot things good about him and there always will be.
I agree with Pony, because most people usually judge other people by how much money they have, how big their house is,what brand names they wear. A lot of people don't realize that someone could look really nice and stil be a bad person underneath. Or that someone who acts mean could really just be shy and self concious.
I think that when Johnny said "Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold... He meant that Pony boy shouldn't change,that he should stay the same.
1. I agree because a lot of people judge others by their looks. The Socs look nicer in their madras shirts than the greasers in their jeans and hair grease, so the society thinks that the Socs are assets. This is a judgement made by looks alone. The truth is that Socs don't lead real lives and don't have feelings, whereas the greasers are very emotional and everything is real to them. Another example was that the African Americans were made slaves becuase their skin was different from the slave owners. This is also a judgement of looks. Also, if a smartly dressed man and another man who wasn't as well dressed showed up for an interview for a job, its more likely that the smartly dressed man would get the job becuase the interviewer would have a good first impression.
2. I think that Johnny was referring to the poem that Pony had recited, "Nothing Gold Can Stay" by Robert Frost. I think Johnny was trying to tell Pony that he could stay gold, even though it contradicts the poem. He was also saying that Pony had a gold heart and was a really good friend, and he wanted Pony to stay that way.
Ponyboy means that most of the greasers aren't as bad as they seem. Behind all the grease meanse once you get through all the bad. I agree and disagree with Ponyboy. I disagree with Ponyboy because I think he's only talking about the bad side of the Socs he's seen. He's never got through any of the Socs until he talked to Randy. Randy said that Bob only wanted his parents to say no to him and punish him for something he does. Bob's parents only blame themselves if he does something wrong. That was the only reason why Bob got so drunk. I also agree with Ponyboy because some people judge too quickly. Take Dally for example. He looked like a really tough guy who liked to jump random people on the streets. He is like that, but he's not as bad as everyone thought he was. He cared about Johnny. He didn't want Johnny to be like him. Greasers also have a bad reputation. That's probably one of the reasons why people don't think greasers are decent guys.
When Johnny said,"Stay gold, Pony boy. Stay gold..." he meant that he wanted Ponyboy to stay how he is now. He didn't want Ponyboy to change.
1. He is trying to say that you can't judge someone by tehir looks, or how they look on the outside.He is saying that people see the greaser as hoods and people think that they can't be trusted, but from what he knows those greasers are pretty descent guys. he is also saying that it's the same with the socs andt he greasers. The greasers just judge the socs by what they look like on the outside. they never reallly get to know them.I do agree with what he says because I also don't like it when people judge people just by their appearence and not who they really are.I think that you really have to get to know the person to really judge them.
2. What Johnny is trying to say to Ponyboy is for Ponyboy to not lose his innocense and not to turn out the way he did.
1) I agree with what Pony said, that people usually go by looks. A first impression alone can make people think you are something you're not. In Ponyboy's case, no one would believe or want to believe that their well-behaved Socs, their 'future' would go out and have a rumble with the infamous hoods, the greasers. In life, someone may look really mean and hard to approach, but once you get to know them, they may be gentle and warm. That's kind of what Ponyboy is saying about the greasers; hard on the outside, soft in the inside. On the other hand, the Socs are more like warm on the outside, and hard in the inside. People wouldn't want to believe that their model citizens were doing something bad, but rather believe that the bad reputation greasers did it.
2)I think that Johnny was refering to the poem Ponyboy had recited, when they were watching the sunset go, and wishing it would stay. At that time, Johnny was basically saying that everything good in life would eventually go, but his last words was trying to tell Ponyboy to stay good. He wanted Ponyboy to be the exception to the poem, and hold on tightly to all the good things in life and not to let life pass him by.
1: Reflect on Ponyboy's words on p.141:"..half of the hoods I know are pretty decent guys underneath all the grease, and from what I've heard, a lot of Socs are just cold-blooded mean - but people usually go by looks." Do you agree? Why or why not? Be specific.
I agree because sometimes someone can look really mean, but end up to be a very nice guy, and someone who looks really cool can be very mean.
2:What do you think Johnny meant when he said, "Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold...?"
I think Johnny meant that Ponyboy should not keep his death on his mind and continue achieve his goals.
1. "..half of the hoods I know are pretty decent guys underneath all the grease, and from what I've heard, a lot of Socs are just cold-blooded mean - but people usually go by looks."
I agree, since people usually have first-impressions, and they tend to be what the other person looks like; for example if you see a person wearing rags and torn jeans walking down the road, you probably will assume that the person isn't exactly rich, and probably dosen't do well in school. However, this person might be a millionare for all you know, and he might be an A+ student. Mainly you have to really know the person, be friends for a longer time than a minute, to really get to know them. Of course everyone still has first impressions, but people should learn that first impressions aren't everything.
2. "Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold..."
I think that Johnny meant that Ponyboy should stay strong, and also to enjoy what he has. He wants Ponyboy to go on with life, and not to worry his head off about him. He wants to die without the guilt of thinking that he ruined his friends' life because they're worrying for him. He also wants Ponyboy to enjoy the small things, such as the sunset they enjoyed together. Perhaps he also refers to Cherry, that he wants Pony to make peace with her, and maybe all the other greasers to make peace with all the other Socs too. He wants life to be better for his buddies.
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